My take was; those videos are a pretty strong argument against selling alcohol in stadiums.

Agreed. I have always thought it was going to get out of hand. Hell, it was always out of hand before you could buy in the stadiums.

Yeah, it's just a big problem waiting to happen.

So a 5% BEER causes more issues than 40% BOURBON being snuck in..? I have never been inside the stadium there when you couldn’t smell BOURBON..

I just blame it on society in general..decorum & respect has gone out the window

McDonough is correct. It's class v. white trash.

(11-07-2024, 04:06 PM)Replying to Creed McDonough is correct.  It's class v. white trash.

Facts my friend!!    Like the dude that threw up in front of us a few weeks ago.    He bought 3 cokes and not a single beer.   

That crown royal in the airline bottles is hell.

For real. I will never forget the'83 UCLA. Damn thunderstorm and torrential rain made the steps in Sanford look like Niagara Falls. And Good God Almighty, there were countless empty bourbon bottles floating around Sanford. It was magical. And hilarious. 

(11-07-2024, 05:16 PM)Replying to DawgNatty

(11-07-2024, 04:06 PM)Replying to Creed McDonough is correct.  It's class v. white trash.

Facts my friend!!    Like the dude that threw up in front of us a few weeks ago.    He bought 3 cokes and not a single beer.   

That crown royal in the airline bottles is hell.

A grown man doing that is messed up.   I have had my time.   But not as an adult.

I like a drink or 3+ for sure, but throwing up isn’t my jam…I have seen it in Jax back in the day..

(11-07-2024, 05:57 PM)Replying to Zolotisty For real. I will never forget the'83 UCLA. Damn thunderstorm and torrential rain made the steps in Sanford look like Niagara Falls. And Good God Almighty, there were countless empty bourbon bottles floating around Sanford. It was magical. And hilarious. 

I was there as a senior (my first senior football season).  There is no comparison to games and alcohol then and now.  There is alcohol sneaked into Sanford but it is nothing compared to bitd.  Sanford then was known for the smell of cigarette smoke and bourbon.  Today, there is no cigarette smoke and almost no bourbon.

The taste of bourbon and coke still takes me back to my college football game days.

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(11-07-2024, 12:25 PM)Replying to McDonoughDawg So a 5% BEER causes more issues than 40% BOURBON being snuck in..? I have never been inside the stadium there when you couldn’t smell BOURBON..

I just blame it on society in general..decorum & respect has gone out the window

Yeah, people are horrible now but giving those horrible people the opportunity to buy beer in the stadium after they have been drinking the 40% bourbon for hours before the game is a bad idea.  

Unfortunately, places like stadiums have to set rules for the lowest common denominator of society.

In both cases, the lack of compliance was ridiculous. Both groups could have avoided everything if they had just done what the cops told them to do. The cops want to have a discussion in the concourse, not in the stands. They both may have lost their ability to attend the rest of the game and that threat was too much for either of them to swallow.

That said, there was not enough done by the cops to deescalate the situation. They could have had a reasonable conversation, especially in the matter involving the three Gator fans, but one cop swooped in and laid hands on one of the guys. In neither case were the cops lives in danger, nor was the general public's and their "procedures" should recognize that alcohol is likely going to be a factor. They were too impatient and tried to resolve the situations by exerting power. In both cases, the fans broke the rules that are announced at every game, using profanity or whatever. People need to recognize that they are guests on the property and need to leave when told, but the cops could have handled the situations better.

Of course, we can never forget the incident that ultimately forced the hand of the Sanford Stadium folk, when some rocket surgeon threw a half-gallon liquor bottle... yes, a glass half-gallon liquor bottle... from the upper deck into the stands below. My Al Gwhores lookup hasn't turned up a story/article mentioning the incident. I want to say that happened either in the late-1970s or early-1980s. My fuzzy, sparky recollection file folder wants to say it hit a person. Sanford Stadium then got very serious about at least trying to prevent people from bringing liquor into the stadium. That's not saying they were successful. I guess they did catch some people trying to bring it in. Some, they didn't.

(11-08-2024, 09:24 AM)Replying to RockmartDawg Of course, we can never forget the incident that ultimately forced the hand of the Sanford Stadium folk, when some rocket surgeon threw a half-gallon liquor bottle... yes, a glass half-gallon liquor bottle... from the upper deck into the stands below. My Al Gwhores lookup hasn't turned up a story/article mentioning the incident. I want to say that happened either in the late-1970s or early-1980s. My fuzzy, sparky recollection file folder wants to say it hit a person. Sanford Stadium then got very serious about at least trying to prevent people from bringing liquor into the stadium. That's not saying they were successful. I guess they did catch some people trying to bring it in. Some, they didn't.

Sitting on the 100 level just in front of where the upper deck ends has always had me anxious about something like that happening.  Even if it's just a cup or something, it would hurt.

Probably started because I went to a game with my mom once when I was about 10 or 11, back in the 80s when she wore those big glasses that all the women wore.  Some dude spit from the upper deck.  I saw my mom just lean over suddenly out of the corner of my eye, and I said "What's wrong?"  She was just laughing and took her glasses off.  the spit had gone right inside the right lens of her big glasses.  She wiped it up with a napkin and we enjoyed the rest of the game.

So gross.

(11-08-2024, 09:24 AM)Replying to RockmartDawg Of course, we can never forget the incident that ultimately forced the hand of the Sanford Stadium folk, when some rocket surgeon threw a half-gallon liquor bottle... yes, a glass half-gallon liquor bottle... from the upper deck into the stands below. My Al Gwhores lookup hasn't turned up a story/article mentioning the incident. I want to say that happened either in the late-1970s or early-1980s. My fuzzy, sparky recollection file folder wants to say it hit a person. Sanford Stadium then got very serious about at least trying to prevent people from bringing liquor into the stadium. That's not saying they were successful. I guess they did catch some people trying to bring it in. Some, they didn't.

That was the 1983 Auburn game.  I was there and in the section next to the guy who threw the bottle.  It was a fifth, not a half gallon, not that that makes a whole lot of difference.  He was trying to throw it at the Auburn team as they left the field after the game (Auburn won 13-7 to deny us a fourth straight SEC championship) and the bottle didn't make it to the field.  The bottle hit a girl in the lower student section near the band.  She had a cut on her head but wasn't seriously injured.

The guy who threw the bottle tried to run away but was grabbed by people around him and held until the police arrived.  He was sitting in a fraternity block, I don't remember which fraternity, but his frat brothers didn't try and protect him.

After that, the university really cracked down on bringing liquor in the stadium and having liquor in the stadium.  People still snuck liquor in but after the bottle incident if the cops caught someone with ANY liquor in the stadium they threw them out.  Before the bottle incident, if you got your liquor through the gate you were pretty well left alone inside the stadium.