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I like how JC says it... college football had a good run. High school football is next.

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#2
I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do
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#3
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

I'd pay Nick way more than I'd pay some kid coming in out of high school, who is also getting a free college education and all of the expenses of living and eating as an athlete.

We soon forget the plight of the "student loan" in the midst of all of this discussion of NIL and college athletes who have a zero balance on their student loans.
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#4
(03-13-2024, 05:43 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

I'd pay Nick way more than I'd pay some kid coming in out of high school, who is also getting a free college education and all of the expenses of living and eating as an athlete.

We soon forget the plight of the "student loan" in the midst of all of this discussion of NIL and college athletes who have a zero balance on their student loans.

Annual tuition room/board is a fraction of Saban's salary and even more so what the university earning in TV money. A parent would be negligent if they did not make sure their child was getting a good deal.
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#5
(03-13-2024, 05:50 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich
(03-13-2024, 05:43 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

I'd pay Nick way more than I'd pay some kid coming in out of high school, who is also getting a free college education and all of the expenses of living and eating as an athlete.

We soon forget the plight of the "student loan" in the midst of all of this discussion of NIL and college athletes who have a zero balance on their student loans.

Annual tuition room/board is a fraction of Saban's salary and even more so what the university earning in TV money. A parent would be negligent if they did not make sure their child was getting a good deal.

I've long thought the players should receive $ while enrolled and making proper grades while on scholarship. It should be the same for each student athlete in each conference. But, only about $2,500 per month, maybe a little more. But now??? It didn't take an MIT grad to realize this NIL was going to be a huge issue. I stopped paying UGA for anything after the 2019 season. I'm done.
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#6
(03-13-2024, 06:08 PM)Replying to gulfportdawg
(03-13-2024, 05:50 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich
(03-13-2024, 05:43 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

I'd pay Nick way more than I'd pay some kid coming in out of high school, who is also getting a free college education and all of the expenses of living and eating as an athlete.

We soon forget the plight of the "student loan" in the midst of all of this discussion of NIL and college athletes who have a zero balance on their student loans.

Annual tuition room/board is a fraction of Saban's salary and even more so what the university earning in TV money. A parent would be negligent if they did not make sure their child was getting a good deal.

I've long thought the players should receive $ while enrolled and making proper grades while on scholarship. It should be the same for each student athlete in each conference. But, only about $2,500 per month, maybe a little more. But now??? It didn't take an MIT grad to realize this NIL was going to be a huge issue. I stopped paying UGA for anything after the 2019 season. I'm done.

Do you still tune in for the games? Anyway, I'm not opposed to rules, my point is that parents should absolutely be concerned with their child's compensation under the current rules.
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#7
(03-13-2024, 05:50 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich
(03-13-2024, 05:43 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

I'd pay Nick way more than I'd pay some kid coming in out of high school, who is also getting a free college education and all of the expenses of living and eating as an athlete.

We soon forget the plight of the "student loan" in the midst of all of this discussion of NIL and college athletes who have a zero balance on their student loans.

Annual tuition room/board is a fraction of Saban's salary and even more so what the university earning in TV money. A parent would be negligent if they did not make sure their child was getting a good deal.

So what?  Saban brought in tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars to Bama every year he was the coach.  He deserved every penny he was paid.  The university doesn't make much at all on the TV money, the athletic associations do and they make that money because coaches like Saban put successful teams on the field year after year.

The free college education and opportunity to audition for an NFL job is a damn good deal for a HS kid who has done absolutely nothing of tangible value up to that point.  The kid may not turn out to be good or he may be injured and he will still get a free college education.  Any parent who doesn't think a full ride scholarship is not a good deal isn't much of a parent.  If those things aren't a "good deal" for the kid; he is more than welcome to turn down the scholarship and let his parents pay for his college education or he can take out student loans and pay his own way and avoid being used and exploited by the college football system. 

Your Marxist view of compensation and class envy is sad.  
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#8
(03-13-2024, 06:43 PM)Replying to JC-DAWG83
(03-13-2024, 05:50 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich
(03-13-2024, 05:43 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

I'd pay Nick way more than I'd pay some kid coming in out of high school, who is also getting a free college education and all of the expenses of living and eating as an athlete.

We soon forget the plight of the "student loan" in the midst of all of this discussion of NIL and college athletes who have a zero balance on their student loans.

Annual tuition room/board is a fraction of Saban's salary and even more so what the university earning in TV money. A parent would be negligent if they did not make sure their child was getting a good deal.

So what?  Saban brought in tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars to Bama every year he was the coach.  He deserved every penny he was paid.  The university doesn't make much at all on the TV money, the athletic associations do and they make that money because coaches like Saban put successful teams on the field year after year.

The free college education and opportunity to audition for an NFL job is a damn good deal for a HS kid who has done absolutely nothing of tangible value up to that point.  The kid may not turn out to be good or he may be injured and he will still get a free college education.  Any parent who doesn't think a full ride scholarship is not a good deal isn't much of a parent.  If those things aren't a "good deal" for the kid; he is more than welcome to turn down the scholarship and let his parents pay for his college education or he can take out student loans and pay his own way and avoid being used and exploited by the college football system. 

Your Marxist view of compensation and class envy is sad.  

Never said Saban didn't deserve what he made, only saying in today's climate I would not accept tuition and room and board only for my child. Not sure what is Marxist about negotiating the best deal possible
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#9
(03-13-2024, 05:50 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich
(03-13-2024, 05:43 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

I'd pay Nick way more than I'd pay some kid coming in out of high school, who is also getting a free college education and all of the expenses of living and eating as an athlete.

We soon forget the plight of the "student loan" in the midst of all of this discussion of NIL and college athletes who have a zero balance on their student loans.

Annual tuition room/board is a fraction of Saban's salary and even more so what the university earning in TV money. A parent would be negligent if they did not make sure their child was getting a good deal.
I believe you're right.
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#10
I sure miss thread view. This is abysmal.
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#11
(03-13-2024, 06:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich
(03-13-2024, 06:08 PM)Replying to gulfportdawg
(03-13-2024, 05:50 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich
(03-13-2024, 05:43 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

I'd pay Nick way more than I'd pay some kid coming in out of high school, who is also getting a free college education and all of the expenses of living and eating as an athlete.

We soon forget the plight of the "student loan" in the midst of all of this discussion of NIL and college athletes who have a zero balance on their student loans.

Annual tuition room/board is a fraction of Saban's salary and even more so what the university earning in TV money. A parent would be negligent if they did not make sure their child was getting a good deal.

I've long thought the players should receive $ while enrolled and making proper grades while on scholarship. It should be the same for each student athlete in each conference. But, only about $2,500 per month, maybe a little more. But now??? It didn't take an MIT grad to realize this NIL was going to be a huge issue. I stopped paying UGA for anything after the 2019 season. I'm done.

Do you still tune in for the games? Anyway, I'm not opposed to rules, my point is that parents should absolutely be concerned with their child's compensation under the current rules.

I watch EVERY UGA game. Under the current rules, there are no rules.
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#12
(03-13-2024, 07:48 PM)Replying to deathdawg I sure miss thread view.  This is abysmal.

Sadly, you are correct
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#13
(03-13-2024, 04:04 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg I like how JC says it... college football had a good run. High school football is next.

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Great  stuff Rockmartdawg Thanks.
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(03-13-2024, 07:48 PM)Replying to deathdawg I sure miss thread view.  This is abysmal.

It’s terrible.
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(03-13-2024, 07:48 PM)Replying to deathdawg I sure miss thread view.  This is abysmal.

im wid ya bro..
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#16
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

That is a good point
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(03-13-2024, 04:04 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg I like how JC says it... college football had a good run. High school football is next.

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JC says it best, but I also think most of devoted adult college football fans knew all this crap was coming.
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#18
I get 'Mater's point that with the system being what it now is that there is some level of prudence in being proactive toward getting what can be gotten for your children. But I think there is "more to the story" where that is concerned. Now it is purely about money and nothing else. The "system" is encouraging players to have zero loyalty to their team, program, fans, etc. Plus, you have all sorts of "parasite" family, friends, you name it, who are at the ready to try to cash in on some high school kid's fortune as a highly recruited football player.

Logic tells us that this can only trickle right on down into the high school level, and I mean IMMEDIATELY. After all, what happens in high school is what determines who does what and goes where in college (or doesn't). High school football is going to become more and more cut-throat as time passes, and truly already is.
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(03-13-2024, 05:50 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich
(03-13-2024, 05:43 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

I'd pay Nick way more than I'd pay some kid coming in out of high school, who is also getting a free college education and all of the expenses of living and eating as an athlete.

We soon forget the plight of the "student loan" in the midst of all of this discussion of NIL and college athletes who have a zero balance on their student loans.

Annual tuition room/board is a fraction of Saban's salary and even more so what the university earning in TV money. A parent would be negligent if they did not make sure their child was getting a good deal.


Tuition and room & board is a fraction of the value of a scholarship at a top flight CFB program.  The weight training, nutrition, teaching, coaching, etc. is worth multiples of the scholarship money for those players with NFL skill / ambition.  It's not the three hots and a cot plus a bit of coursework that turned Ladd McConkey into a potential first rounder.
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(03-14-2024, 12:54 PM)Replying to Dawgalways
(03-13-2024, 05:50 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich
(03-13-2024, 05:43 PM)Replying to RockmartDawg
(03-13-2024, 04:18 PM)Replying to Tomato Sandwich I would be worried about that too as a parent. Not like they have Jimmy Sexton negotiating for them like Nick and Terry do

I'd pay Nick way more than I'd pay some kid coming in out of high school, who is also getting a free college education and all of the expenses of living and eating as an athlete.

We soon forget the plight of the "student loan" in the midst of all of this discussion of NIL and college athletes who have a zero balance on their student loans.

Annual tuition room/board is a fraction of Saban's salary and even more so what the university earning in TV money. A parent would be negligent if they did not make sure their child was getting a good deal.


Tuition and room & board is a fraction of the value of a scholarship at a top flight CFB program.  The weight training, nutrition, teaching, coaching, etc. is worth multiples of the scholarship money for those players with NFL skill / ambition.  It's not the three hots and a cot plus a bit of coursework that turned Ladd McConkey into a potential first rounder.

Excellent points. The more we dig, the more digging to be done. Keep finding treasure.
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